My response to,
@offstumped
I think this post has amazing clarity. Thank you for articulating it. Although partly covered, one aspect of liberalism, which I think is the most contentious, must be included: Liberals, while claiming, complete freedom for individual should be achieved at all costs, actively neglect responsibility of individuals which is an important factor in collectivism (used as a synonym for politically neutral meaning for communalism). This is a core contentious issue between “us and them”. It also important because it has been clearly shown that this liberal claim does not achieve mutual benefit for Economic Transactions (we can draw an analogy for Social Transactions).
It is through Liberal Paradox and Impossibility Theorem (Social choice theory) that this has been clearly established and has been well received. Adding this item, will make arguments against left liberals stronger.
We need to work on theoretically establishing why left liberalism has flaws. It is definitely possible.
Some of my crude arguments are here. They are very personal in nature and are not well researched but have some valid arguments (read I wont defend everything in them). Thanks again for the clarity that your post establishes.
PS: I have found Bertrand Russel’s – Political Ideals, very useful in understanding some of these concepts.
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